Monday, February 8, 2010

If evolution is false then why did God provide so much evidence for it ?

The ability of a virus to mutate to another species as a host ( H1N1 for example)


DNA analysis that conclusively ties all living things together.


A solid fossil record showing the evolutionary path of life


Changing out characteristics through breeding . The pug, the terrier these are all man made creations through selective breeding . All dog breeds are related to wolves they would not be here but for man's domestication and selective breeding.


I know what you are going to say , that this is the way God made it . Why would he provide all the evidence to support evolution through natural selection . Why not just eliminate these issues , thus eliminate the debate . Please don't give me that bull that it is a test .If evolution is false then why did God provide so much evidence for it ?
this question is of the devil!!!!!If evolution is false then why did God provide so much evidence for it ?
I never said evolution is false. I just wish people would stop quoting evolution as if the theory were perfect and without it's shortcomings. I don't completely support the theory of evolution; I do acknowledge that God could have used it. However, the theory of evolution is not complete nor is it perfect.
Why is the Cambrian Fossil record such a Dilemma for Darwin's theory?





Why did so many animals appear so fast with out lower species first?





There is adaptation with animals but there is never a change in species IE lack of fossil record.





Dogs stay dogs and Bacteria stay bugs.
Look in a mirror. There is plenty of evidence that this image is a life form, but understanding breaks any illusion of such thinking. Whatever is subject to evolution is the false image, but man is not false, but spiritual in truth.
the virus did not mutate into a different species, it just got simpler and able to eat the vaccines. man made animals have less info not more. It's not solid fossil records.either. if it was solid there be no debate would there.
And if you want to give answers, please give objective evidence to an alternative, scientific method with objective evidence.





Though, I doubt something would come up.
I don't think it is false. I don't think evolution contradicts the Bible. I think the idea of evolution without God's guidance does, though.
Evolution is the discovery of man throught science, it's not a evidence provided by God.
I'm not going to tell you ';this is the way god made it.';


Evolution is true. There is no god.


See how that works?
he tried to hide the evidence...just like he tried to make it seem like the earth was flat





but Magellan was just to smart for him


....so was darwin




















edit : and einstein





edit : and hubble
To confuse people who do not want to believe in Him.
yes and the world is flat because it looks like it is
Since the overwhemingly vast majority of Creationists also accept Evolution, I'll address your question as pertaining to the YECs who love to post their uneducated, illogical beliefs here.





YECs have the untenable position of not only having to counter the vast observable evidence for Evolution, but they then must address Why their ';God'; chose to create such deadly species of lifeforms as the H1N1 virus; the AIDS virus; the various types of cancer, etc...





Then the YEC must also answer the logically implied position that IF their ';God'; chose to create such organisms, then Why is ';He'; somehow NOT responsible for the pain, suffering and death that ';His'; chosen creations inflict? Remember, viruses and bacteria would not possibly have freewill; they only do what they were ';created'; to do. If their ';God'; is truly Omnipotent, then He is logically responsible for the results of everything He ';creates'; for good or bad. The basic Creationist position is logically defensible (however improbable), but the YEC position is not only untenable, it's just flat out ignorant.
1. Virus mutations are a result of a genetic loss of information. Evolution requires a genetic increase in information.





2. DNA is the most information rich system known to man. Even evolutionists know this. Just because organisms are similar in some places in the code doesn't mean they share a common ancestor. That is an evolutionary assumption.





3. Selective breeding is what evolutionists call ';artificial selection.'; There is a variety of dogs, but the further breeders deviate from the generic mutt, the more problems they encounter. Ask any breeder if you don't believe me. The variations are always limited.





4. There is no solid fossil record. There are only fossils. Even prominent evolutionists will admit that. Ask Mary Leakey if the tree of life means anything.





5. God didn't make things to look like they evolved. No creationist that I am aware of uses the ';God is testing us by giving us evidence for evolution'; argument.





I'm sorry, but your question is invalid. There is no evidence that points to evolution and away from creation.
so much evidence for it ? Just made up evidence the facts do not hold true.





He provided that everything reproduces after its own kind.





Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit





*** after his kind,





whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.





Hybrids do not reproduce from seed!





Genesis 1:21


And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly,





** after their kind,





and every winged fowl





**after his kind:





and God saw that it was good.





That is why when you try to breed anything out of its kind they will not reproduce.





Here is an example:





If you breed a Gold fish with a Koi you get a fish who can not reproduce.





You can breed a donkey with a horse which produces a Mule who can not reproduce!





They are close to being the same kind but will not reproduce.





Breed an Ape with a human and you will get nothing because they are not related!





You study wolfs and dogs(domesticated? wolfs?) and see if I am right!





DNA of each species is a computer program designed by God to make for instance a Human Being whose DNA goes all the way back to Adam and Eve or each species Original parent.





John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.





John 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.





John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.





John 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.





John 1:5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.





Read a little further and you will find out the Word was made Flesh (Jesus) and lived in the time of John who gives us an eye account of Jesus and John says He is God. I think John was treated pretty badly for his testimony about God!





As we modern day believers are scoffed at and treated badly for asking people to investigate the claims about Jesus and escape from the judgement that is coming for all of us.





First all believers then all who have mocked him.





Your choice!





I choose the love of God which is in His son Jesus.





Today is the day!





Tomorrow may be to late!





Zechariah 11





11 But they refused to heed, shrugged their shoulders, and stopped their ears so that they could not hear.





12 Yes, they made their hearts like flint, refusing to hear the law and the words which the LORD of hosts had sent by His Spirit through the former prophets. Thus great wrath came from the LORD of hosts.





13 Therefore it happened, that just as He proclaimed and they would not hear, so they called out and I would not listen,” says the LORD of hosts.





Adam and Eve sinned against God they were put out of the perfect world He created them in and put on the earth as we know it.





The world has sin and death.





We sin and are guilty !





Have you ever lied?





Have you ever stolen anything?





Have you ever mocked God?





Have you ever etc.etc. etc?





In fact Jesus says that if you hate someone in your heart you are guilty of Murder!


So.... most of us have broken all ten commandments at sometime in our lives!





Adam gives us death and Jesus gives us life. To simple for the educated fool!





Jesus is God and He came to redeem the world from sin and death since .... sins penalty is death He had to pay our penalty.





Just before He allowed the Romans to crucify him he said





No man TAKES MY Life ... I give it freely ...





at that point all of the Roman soldiers where knocked to the ground.





After physically dying on the cross.





He went into the captives of death and preached to them





The bible says that many came out with him.





He then came back to Jerusalem and was seen by 500 people.


And as they watched He was taken up into heaven and came back.


Because the religious people of the day where saying that the body was stolen He showed all 500 people that without any doubt he IS alive.





Many of these people where put to death by the Romans because they would not say that He was Dead.





He is alive today and seated on the right hand of God as we read this.





THINK ... would you give your life for a dead man? No and neither did they.
I'd like to see the ';complete fossil record'; because as of now they have found very few transitional fossils, and the ones they've found (Lucy for example) was scattered over a mile and they only found 5 bones and drew up the rest. Of course you've never heard that. Also of course DNA analysis ties everything together...did you really think God when he created the universe decided to change blueprints every 10 organisms? He used the same blueprint for everyone, that is why we all are tied together. I read ';The Greatest Show on Earth'; by Richard Dawkins, showing the proof for evolution, and unfortunately i would say that the ';proof'; he shows is based on assumptions and some false/stretched ideas. To be completely honest their is as little proof for evolution as creationism.

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